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Page summary This resource is from the Committees section. These are the minutes of the 3 February 2005 meeting of the Community Engagement Committee. Sections available here:
Content Minutes - draftPlease note these minutes are currently draft and are subject to committee approval. Minutes of the Community Engagement Committee held on 3 February 2005 at 10 Dean Farrar Street, London, SW1H 0NY. PresentMembers
MPA officers
MPS officers
Also present
39. Apologies for absence(Agenda item 1) Apologies for absence were received from Nicky Gavron, Peter Herbert and Damian Hockney. 40. Declarations of interests(Agenda item 2) No interests were declared. 41. Minutes – 2 December 2005(Agenda item 3) The Committee considered the minutes of the meeting held on 2 December 2004. Arising from minute 37 – Safer Neighbourhoods – Utilising the results of Community Engagement, members noted that an update on MPS pilot scheme on the use of technology in consultation would be presented to a future meeting. Resolved - That the minutes of the meeting held on 2 December be confirmed and signed as a correct record. 42. Chair’s, Members’ and Clerk’s update (oral report)(Agenda item 4) John Roberts reported that he had undertaken custody visits in Brixton and raised concerns at the standard of cells and the lack of and standard of provisions. The Deputy Clerk agreed to raise this concerns with the MPS. Kirsten Hearn reported that she had attended a meeting on community safety with representatives of the Gay, Lesbian Bi-sexual and Transgender community and at which discussion included the perception of young people as victim of crime as opposed to the perpetrators of crime. Jenny Jones informed the Committee that she had recently attended the showing of a film in Rotherhithe, which focused on the cutting of funding to young people projects, and which suggested that this could encourage crime amongst young people. Aneeta Prem reported that she had visited Thailand following the Asian Tsunami (at the invitation of the MPS) to assess the input of the MPS involvement in the support operation. She highlighted the need for continuing support for MPS staff in the countries affected and that the issues of resources to be discussed with the Home Office. The Chair thanked the Community Engagement Unit for the members’ away day, which had proved useful. It was agreed that a further half day session in 6 moths time be arranged. Resolved - That the oral reports be received. 43. Review of Independent Custody Visiting SchemeMembers considered a report that outlined the outcomes of the MPA’s review of Independent Custody Visiting in accordance with the Police Reform Act 2002. In doing so, members also received the report of the consultant appointed by the Committee to undertake the review, Mr Ian Smith, Executive Director of the Independent Custody Visiting Association (ICVA). Mr Smith attended the meeting to present his report to members. In both reports and in his presentation, Mr Smith reminded the Committee of the MPA’s statutory obligations relating to ICV’s and highlighted key areas of weakness in the delivery by the MPA of an ICV scheme. However, it was acknowledged that by undertaking such a review, the MPA were taking the first steps to alleviate some of the concerns outlined in his report and now needed to address all weaknesses in order for the MPA, not only to meet requirements, but to take a lead nationally on independent custody visiting. Chair of the Committee agreed that before consideration of the recommendations in the report, members should take agenda item 6 – Response by the London ICVP Chairs and Administrators. Following which members agreed that recommendation 4 be amended to allow the Deputy Clerk to establish a London ICV Programme Board as soon as possible. Resolved - That
44. Response to the Review by the London ICVP Chairs and AdministratorsFollowing the review of Independent Custody Visiting and in relation to agenda item 5, members received a report which gave a response to the review from the Chairs and Administrators of London ICV Panels. The report was presented by Mick Farrant, Interim Chair of the Chars of ICVPs. Mr Farrant informed the Committee that the chairs and administrators of ICV panels welcomed the need for a review of custody visiting in London. Mr Farrant stated that there were three issues arising from Mr Smith’s report and subsequent implementation plan which there was particular concern. These were highlighted as: the viability of the proposed centralisation of administrative structures and its impact on the London’s borough based system; resource allocation to the proposed administrative structure; and the need for an impact analysis of proposed changes. The Deputy Clerk thanked Mr Farrant for the points that he had raised and acknowledged the weaknesses in the delivery of an ICV scheme by the MPA. Members were concerned that in order to deliver the proposed implementation plan adequate resources would be required and that there was a need to engage with and acknowledge those who had maintained the services, prior to the review. In doing so, the Committee requested that their thanks to those volunteers who had been delivering the service be recorded. The Deputy Clerk added issues of resourcing the delivery of all of the proposals in the implementation plan would need to be addressed. However, the MPA had to ensure that its statutory requirements were being met. The Deputy Clerk added that he hoped that an action plan, in consultation with members and partners would be in place a soon as possible. The Committee would also be regularly updated on progress being made. In response to members, the Deputy Clerk informed members that as part of the review legal advice, particularly, around employment issues, would be sought. The Head of Community Engagement Unit informed members that there had been a high take up in registering for the London ICV Conference on 12 February 2005 at which it was anticipated that custody visiting could be re launched. Mr Farrant addressed the Committee on a number of issues in relation to ICV’s including: the role of ICVs and immigration detainees and the recruitment and retention of ICVs. Mr Farrant also requested further information on deaths in custody and the length of time it was taking for a conclusion of these investigation. It was agreed that a report on this issue be presented to the next meeting. Resolved –That
45. Towards an MPA community engagement strategyThe Committee received a report that presented the draft Community Engagement Strategy for consideration. Resolved – That the report be received as the basis for further consultation and discussion before considering the adoption of a final Community Engagement Strategy at its next meeting and then submitting it for ratification to the full Authority. 46. Community Engagement Funding 2005/06A report was received that set out the proposals for community engagement fund allocated to the community police consultative groups for 2005/06. Since the report had been circulated, members were informed that both Enfield and Hackney had now supplied the required mandatory information and that it was recommended that the groups should receive funding without condition. Officers reported that discussion was ongoing with the group in Tower Hamlets regarding the provision of mandatory information and resolution of other issues as outlined in the report. The Committee also noted the ongoing discussion with the London Chairs Forum. Members welcomed officers’ efforts to arrive at a more equitable distribution of funds across London, and supported officers proposals to provided limited one-off funding to group based projects. In doing so, officers undertook to report back to the Committee on this issue in due course, as well as details on the future of community engagement funding. The Committee were reminded of the appeals process and that officers’ from the Community Engagement Unit would continue to hold dialogue with those groups where funding had not been recommended. The Deputy Clerk reported that he had held discussions with the representatives from the group from Ealing and was confident that the group would secure contained funding from the MPA provided that they could meet the criteria required for funding. Members supported officers who raised concerns that some groups were not making efforts to ensure that their membership and activities were in line with best practice or were not providing adequate information on such issues as ethnicity, gender, age range or disability. Members reiterated that the criteria for funding should be subject to the provision of mandatory data and groups should attempt to be as diverse as the communities they represent. The Deputy Clerk confirmed that following the Appeal Panel decisions to fund groups could be taken under the Authority’s urgency procedure. Officers from the Community Engagement Unit also undertook to keep link members informed of decision taken in relation to their boroughs. Resolved – That
47. Community safety boardsMembers received a report and update on the establishment of two Community Safety Boards in London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham and Islington. Resolved – That
48. Safer London Panel – Report on first surveyThe Committee considered a report that provided feedback from a public attitude survey, undertaken by the Office of Public Management on the Safer London Panel. Members welcomed the report and the results of the Survey. They requested that where possible future surveys should attempt to be more representative for example to attempt to break data down into more specific groupings of London communities. Whilst members welcomed the Panel being made available for research by other partners, the Committee agreed that the Panel’s work plan should be presented to a future meeting of the Committee. Resolved – That
49. MPS Strategic Consultation Unit work planAn update report was considered by members that outlined the MPS Strategic Consultation Unit work plan. Resolved – That
50. Citizen focussed policing programme - updateA report was received which provided an update on the MPS citizen focused policing programme. Resolved - That
51. Safer neighbourhoods survey and public attitude survey option for development(Agenda item 13) 52. Update on the MPS consultation and community engagement websiteMembers were invited to endorse the MPS Consultation and Community Engagement website currently being development. The report gave details on the progress on the five phases of the website, as presented to the Committee at its meeting in October 2004. Resolved – That
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